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Post by worldreader on Jul 8, 2011 16:57:54 GMT -5
well, There are many things in the film that made it fail, specially in the construction of the story. The story follows the plot of a support character and the conflict belongs to him (mushu), not to the main one (Mulan). That's an important flaw of the script, the conflict had to be about Mulan not about mushu losing his job.
On the other hand, they DESTROY the personality of the character, totaly different from the first film. The people in charge of the story in the first movie did built carefully the characters' profiles (when you write a scrip you do the biographical, physical and psychological profile). They change them in the second film, they made the character do things they would never do in the first film; maybe because it's a different context, but, even in that situation, they changed them a lot.
I have to say that i rather like deleted scene than the real intro of the movie, because, from the begining you can tell that the main action, plot and conflict goes around Mushu, not Mulan; that's why i always thought that it shouldn't be called "Mulan 2" but "Mushu ".
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Post by levy120 on Jul 9, 2011 6:44:23 GMT -5
Mushu getting his own Movie would be KICKASS xD But then I'd rather opt for something along the lines of "Lion King 1/2" instead of THIS monstrosity ~
Other naming options could of course be "The Gang of Three and Their Princesses on a Secrut Misshun" although that name would have probably been too long =>
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Post by castledown13 on Jul 11, 2011 20:16:18 GMT -5
Mulan 2 would've been better if they put that Battle Sequence scene in!
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Post by eline on Jul 16, 2011 6:47:16 GMT -5
^Post it? Pretty please. ^
The deleted scene is one of the many things wrong with the movie. My headcanon=No sequel
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Post by castledown13 on Jul 26, 2011 18:05:49 GMT -5
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Post by castledown13 on Jul 27, 2011 9:43:33 GMT -5
But I still find it sad that they never put that in the sequel. It would've made the movie a whole lot better,minus the princesses singing that they wanna be like other girls. -_-; And I agree with porcelainwarrior with.....everything actually. I mean,the battle with those bandits was horrible! They just randomly showed up and I thought that it would've been better if there were some remaining Huns avenging Shan Yu's death or maybe that Shan Yu survived the explosion and try to get revenge from his defeat for conquest of China. Also, they made Mulan too girly *shudders* and yeah the "Duty to my heart" thing is a good quote but it was said or mentioned too many times! And what up with the pedestal thing?! In the first movie,just like porcelainwarrior said, Mushu reflected on his actions in the Tung Shao Pass and in the sequel, he became selfish enough to seperate Mulan and Shang. Plus,there's no "real" bad guy here! Seriously! It's like they made Mushu the antagonist (which made me pissed off). And the emperor of Qi Gong,did he have some threat to China? Did he have an army? It didn't make any sense! Furthermore,the Gang of Three and the princesses just met in 3 days then there all like,"I love you! Let's get married!" at the end! I mean,shouldn't they sit down and get to know each other more? They have relationships in f*ckin' 3 days and Mulan and Shang had a relationship in a month. Like I said before,the Battle Sequence would have made the movie better and it would've have probably cut out the fluffy stuff.
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Post by eline on Jul 29, 2011 12:47:06 GMT -5
There's a difference between girly and so-girly-that-it-makes-her-an-unbelievable-warrior. I don't think Mulan really likes dressing up as a boy,I like to see her as a girl with both girly and tomboyish qualities. ;D
That bugs me too, the first movie ended without a kiss because of the limited time span. Who get's married in a month? And don't pull that historical crap because if we take it down that road, the princesses would never be able to marry the gang.
PS Thanks for posting the vid,castledown 13 ;D
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Post by levy120 on Jul 29, 2011 12:50:08 GMT -5
There was a kiss =) Mushu got it x3
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Post by eline on Jul 29, 2011 12:52:35 GMT -5
Fuel for the shippers! (Is it strange that I support Shang and Mushu equally?lol)
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Post by castledown13 on Jul 31, 2011 15:16:37 GMT -5
You're welcome eline! And I was smiling so much when there was the kiss in the Battle Sequence. But it never made it in the final product!
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Post by 19ana89 on Aug 25, 2011 17:23:03 GMT -5
I think they should have kept this and use that storyline instead. It would have been a much better movie IMO.
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Post by castledown13 on Sept 3, 2011 21:33:16 GMT -5
So true.
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